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All those images[edit source]

Now that we have image uploads functioning on the server again, how's about we move these imageshack.us things over here? I'm not super comfortable with whitelisting free image hosts... I mean, I'll do it if it's deemed very important, but I'd rather keep the whitelist confined to things we can't do on our own. - misuba 13:58, 4 September 2007 (EDT)

Color Scheme[edit source]

Question regarding color scheme of {{cc donated}} - any reason why it's different from {{content donated}}? The old color scheme would fit in more with {{cc}}. See Hexano for an example of what I'm talking about. -- Jeremiah 22:42, 25 May 2005 (GMT)

The style of {{cc donated}} seemed to me to be less ugly. But you don't want to look at the license box most of the time. Why not use a sub-page of your user page, such as User:Jeremiah/Licenses, say, as a single place for every license from you to IcehouseGames.org? That is, if you don't want to put the licenses on IcehouseOrg:Externally-hosted resources, which is merely another place to keep licenses, frankly. -- Rootbeer 00:13, 26 May 2005 (GMT)

Creative Commons Licensing of External Resources[edit source]

I have a several PDF files that are gameboards for my games. They're currently hosted externally, and linked from here. If I wanted to indicate that they are licensed under a creative commons license (in this case, my license of choice is by-nc-sa), would this template be enough? What are the terms of "Normal submission methods"? -- Jeremiah 16:40, 25 May 2005 (GMT)

The terms of "normal submission methods" are the terms that you're agreeing to by using Special:Upload or any "Save page" button. The intent is to say that you're putting your creation under this site's license terms just as if you had uploaded the content, instead of just the link.
For example, from what I think you're saying about the license you want, somebody who wanted to turn your gameboard PDFs into (say) PNGs would be free to upload those files. (You could do that yourself, of course. But the point is that you shouldn't have to.)
If you want to talk about what a license would mean, you can make a fake one on this page. Just put something like *VOID*specimen license*VOID* into the notes= section. -- Rootbeer 17:41, 25 May 2005 (GMT)
The closest I can get using the template is something like follows:
The content of http://jeremiah.wittevrongel.ca/Icehouse/HexanoBoardBW.pdf, known as the board for Hexano (Black and White), which may be otherwise under copyright as follows (© 2005 Jeremiah Wittevrongel), is hereby licensed non-exclusively by Jeremiah Wittevrongel at 20:30, 25 May 2005 (GMT), under the same terms as if this content had been contributed via normal submission methods. Licensed under a Creative Commons License
What I was looking for is something more like the following:
The content of http://jeremiah.wittevrongel.ca/Icehouse/HexanoBoardBW.pdf, known as the board for Hexano (Black and White), which may be otherwise under copyright as follows (© 2005 Jeremiah Wittevrongel), is hereby licensed non-exclusively by Jeremiah Wittevrongel at 20:30, 25 May 2005 (GMT), under a Creative Commons License
It's a small difference, and I'm not sure it truly matters, but to me the wording the same terms as if this content had been contributed via normal submission methods is just too vague.
-- Jeremiah 20:30, 25 May 2005 (GMT)
The content of http://jeremiah.wittevrongel.ca/Icehouse/HexanoBoardBW.pdf, known as the board for Hexano (Black and White), which may be otherwise under copyright as follows (© 2005 Jeremiah Wittevrongel), is hereby licensed non-exclusively by Jeremiah Wittevrongel at 20:30, 25 May 2005 (GMT), under the Creative Commons by-nc-sa License *VOID*specimen license*VOID*
Does this wording work for you, to specify the license name in the link text? -- Rootbeer 20:58, 25 May 2005 (GMT)
Works for me. Be careful how you template it, though. If someone wants to use a non-cc license, or indicate that the work is in the public domain, or make some other reference, it would ideally be easy. Also, I don't necessarily think that a link should be forced in any way.
Of course, you could always make a general template that could be used directly, then make a template for CC license stuff that just invoked the general template with some more specific parameters. -- Jeremiah 21:18, 25 May 2005 (GMT)
*VOID*specimen license*VOID* The content of http://jeremiah.wittevrongel.ca/Icehouse/HexanoBoardBW.pdf, known as the board for Hexano (Black and White), which may be otherwise under copyright as follows (© 2005 Jeremiah Wittevrongel), is hereby licensed non-exclusively by Jeremiah Wittevrongel at 20:30, 25 May 2005 (GMT), under the Creative Commons by-nc-sa License. http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png *VOID*specimen license*VOID*
That's Template:cc donated. I like the way this works, for now. Somebody could make a public domain variation on this (Template:pd donated?) pretty easily, especially if you have a good replacement image and link. -- Rootbeer 22:31, 25 May 2005 (GMT)

Public domain vs. copyright[edit source]

With regards to that last entry, IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer), but I'm pretty sure you can't public domain and CC something, since public domain implies no copyright protection whatsoever, and the CC licenses are (Perhaps ironically) enforced by copyright protections. -- GregF 22:13, 1 Jun 2005 (GMT)

Well, you can, in the same sense that you can sentence a drowned man to be hanged. The images I've supplied are available under the CC licenses which I posted. And they're in the public domain, even though I haven't posted a license here to say that separately. I haven't yet drafted a template to release a copyrighted work into the public domain, so I'm using the template I've got. (If somebody needs more rights than I've given them with these licenses, ask me to release them officially into the public domain. At that point, you don't need to pay attention to the CC license any more.) Does that clear anything up? — Rootbeer (Tom) (U | T | C) 22:27, 1 Jun 2005 (GMT)